as it happened, i just went to a screening last week hosted by john mccain and hillary clinton at the kennedy center for the new film about mandela's life. i could tell you, kelly, it is -- it is a staggering lifetime that he led. the distance that he traveled from a poor kid in south africa where opportunities were foreclosed to turning briefly to violence after the frustrations of that movement and the massacre that occurred in sharkville in south africa in 1960. he was jailed after a trial. and then emerged triumphant and somebody that the entire world could look up to. this is -- you can bet that president obama's going to be heard on this before too long. and we've lost somebody that deserves emulation everywhere. >> i don't know, i just want to bring people a little bit of background information here about mandela's condition over the last couple of months. he had been three months in the hospital with the recurrent lun september, originally. but those lung problems attributed to the tuberculosis he contracted during 27 years in prison before he led his country to democracy, sub